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good afternoon everyone I'd like to
welcome you to the Russell County Board
of Supervisors March the 20th 2023 at 6
p.m in the Russell County Board of
Supervisors meeting room I'd like to
first to start off with a column order
in roll call
Tim level Ace here all right here David
E here Steve Brady here Rebecca here in
Norris Cruise present in Luanne walls
here ma'am you have a quarrel thank you
Mr Leicester at this time I'm going to
ask to everyone to please rise for the
invocation and stand remain standing for
the pledge
father God lord we love you we thank you
we praise you today Father father
forgive us for where we fail you each
and every day thank you for allowing us
to be a part of our local government
father and help us be more like you in
every single way father in your name I
pray amen
and to the Republic foreign
thank you at this time I'm going to ask
for an approval of the agenda before I
do that I'm going to do a little
Switcheroo if you don't mind
um so I'm going to ask that we do have
citizen comments
um directly before the presentation for
the budget that way if you have anything
that you need to get off your heart and
mind and and Scoot out of the room
that's fine and then I'm going to leave
the citizens comments after the budget
so that we might have we might entertain
some questions for that so I'll
entertain a motion for this agenda
amended I'll make that motion I have a
motion I need a second
thank you all all in favor
any opposed any abstentions thank you
so at this time if you signed up to
speak tonight and you want to speak
before
um the budget is some of the budget is
talked about I'll open up the floor for
that
and um Mr Lester thinks he's going to go
for about maybe an hour an hour and 15
minutes
Maybe
I'm going to say that okay
give me your name and address and
um we'll go from there okay hi my name
is Sarah Lambert Osborne and I live in
Lebanon Virginia
can I close this
or let me just open it
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oh that was a quick fix
so I come to you tonight thank you for
allowing me to have the opportunity to
speak and I'll try not to take up too
much of your time but I'm coming to you
over the I've been made a way that we do
have funds and from the opioid
settlement so I'm coming to you
regarding those in how I would like to
see those spent and so I am a visual
person so I'll hand these out to you if
that's okay
and everyone's kind of over those topics
Okay so
I'm so grateful that we do have
um received These funds and have future
funding coming
um
uh to my understanding from what I have
read
um through the material is that these
funds do have to be spent
um just specifically on the opioid
crisis that we do have and which I feel
like is a difficult task in a sense to
accomplish because as you all know we
have a broad spectrum of substance abuse
going on here
um but I have had some thoughts on that
and I feel like in order to our main
goal should be to reach out to our First
Responders and I would like to reach the
First Responders our Russell County
Public School administration all of the
staff and all of our government
employees and then go to our churches
and then open this up to our citizens of
Russell County and first and foremost
with the opioid crisis
um misuse and abuse of the the opioid I
would like to get Narcan distribution to
all of the entities that I just
mentioned I would like to use the fans
to purchase those and also as we do that
include a revive training and which
tells you how to use that who can use
that in any liabilities or side effects
to that
moving down once we do that I would like
again for all the entities that I just
mentioned and on your paper I have
bulleted the areas I would like to
Target which would we would like to
offer CPR and first aid training also
um so this way with opioid misuse and
overdoses
um when they're overdosed a lot of times
they go into cardiac arrest
um so if we have are equipped with the
training and safety of CPR first aid and
we can save a life and hopefully and I
know CPR and first aid is hard and a
couple questions have been asked to me
um well you're going to be in a state of
panic whenever you if you approach
someone that is overdosed it obviously
it is a state of panic
um I would be in a state of panic I
think we all would but if we plant that
seed of memory to the CPR in first aid
whenever they call this by but dispatch
is going to start walking them through
that memory is going to come back to
them and they're going to be able to do
the compressions and go through CPR
until paramedics arrive so again we have
upped our chances in Saving a life
now going on down
this involves a little bit more so for
all of our Russell County Sheriff's
Office first responding vehicles
Lebanon Police Department Patrol
Vehicles home acre police department
patrol vehicles our Russell County
Public Schools Athletics program
um Lebanon volunteer fire department
Castlewood fire and rescue Holland
Honaker and Cleveland volunteer fire
department along with Copper Creek I
would love to be able to see or look
into putting in AED in each of those
trucks and ambulances most of those
already have those but our patrol cars
as well because again you've got the
cardiac arrest that is involved in an
overdose crisis situation and if they
have that AED on hand with the paddles
to resuscitate we up our chances yet
again in Saving another life as that
gets harder
um and of course with the IED
distribution you would have to do the
training to those
um and we have I have people who can do
that and if you'll flip your paper over
I would also like to purchase medical
kits which would also include
respirators for the Russell County
Sheriff's Office Lebanon and Honaker
police department and these medical kits
are they are first aid kit but they are
also they're a little more in depth with
that
um they have a few items in there that
are opioid based on top of the Narcan so
they would have to have training to go
with it I do have a professor and a
paramedic from Southwest Virginia
Community College who is willing to do
the training for that
um but the medical kits is there are two
medical kits and if you're interested we
can you know go further
um but one Medical Kit is a small one
that goes on the officer's vest that
they wear that is to treat them because
if they walk into a situation whether
that be overdose or whether that's
misuse you have them intoxicated on the
opioids and most opioid intoxicated
people are very combative and they are
very violent
argumentative so that puts those
officers and at risk and they can be gun
shot stabbed even just through the fight
you can break the skin with that and
those officers will have a way to
protect themselves while they also have
a medical kit a little bit larger in
their patrol car to take care of the
clients who are around
um
going forward I would also like to do a
youth CPR and opioid education because
as we all know
um sadly we hate to face it but sadly it
is with our youth and more and more and
it's within our schools I'm sure you're
all aware we just had two students at
home acre High School a couple weeks ago
had to transport them out and we really
need to focus on the youth as they are
our future
um so if we could offer ages 14 to 18
years old they can actually be certified
in CPR and then we would educate them on
opioid education as well
um
moving down the line
and as bad as I hate to say this too but
our seven-year-old from seven-year-old
to 13 year old
they face it just as much as our 14 to
18. they go home they're parents their
grandparents whoever their caretakers
are and they are addicted
um and they're they're faced with it
also but for the 7 to 13 you don't I
would prefer not to get too in-depth
with them I prefer to do like a fun
animated 30-minute program
um just to kind of educate them on what
to do in a crisis situation if they were
to find someone overdosed and what
opioids are how to avoid those if they
are offered what they can look like
um
that's what I would like to do
um and all of these and I have listed on
here
um in doing my research and talking to
all of our entities who are county-wide
and everyone in support here is Russell
County Sheriff's Office Lebanon Police
Department Honaker Police Department
Russell County Public Schools Lebanon
volunteer fire department hone acre
volunteer fire department Castlewood
Fire and Rescue Lebanon life-saving crew
Southwest Virginia Community College and
then I've also had the pleasure of
speaking with Senator Todd pillion who
said that he would help me in every way
of the guidance through this and he is
the chair of the opioid abatement
program through the state of Virginia
I know that's a lot to throw at you
um at once but I just been sitting
thinking how could we use these funds to
benefit each and every one of us in our
County and and I this is what I came up
with and if you would consider that
um I would greatly appreciate it and if
you have questions
um or decide that you are interested I
would be happy to come back with costs
and how we could allocate the funds and
do a full presentation for you
so this is just in consideration of your
idea for this board to be thinking about
and also let me ask you this so how do
you see uh not to take us not not to
leave us down a rabbit hole but I do
that a lot but anyway how do you see the
organization uh to put this out is this
a is this through the county and the
county sets this up is this through uh
what program would would we use these
just strictly through the county right
right there
commuter fairly sized distribution
I mean Warriors
you you can call her tonight as far as
probably bring an article on with
so but I think you know in our time
would be a great thing for everyone
in my truck right now training takes
about 15 minutes
in doing the research of that and
talking to the state of Virginia who
does offer the revive training and the
Narcan and it says that you are to have
an hour-long training and then you
receive your Narcan at that time so it
would take an hour but we're all busy so
if we did offer the CPR first aid we
could also include that Narcan training
with that also and CPR first aid will
take four hours
um
great is there
going to do his email today they're
going to be very restricted
they talked basically that remediation
so which is kind of like the treatment
of some sort I think we could do some
prevention I think we can do that I
think narcans are
yes
the CPR
their money
who knows it's a new program exactly
well into my understanding because
there's a link um that you can go it's
public knowledge so you can go and look
that up so just in my reading I'm sure
you have and and that's why I come to
you for guidance however and I think the
way if I'm not and correct me if I'm
wrong and that we would have to submit
an application and show how the program
would go what we would like to do and
then they would either approve that or
not if you know
so we wouldn't have so much to spend an
application for that
is this going to be your guidelines
right
if we wanted to apply for some
additional money there's another Pool
money out there we would put an
application together
like all sorts of ways you can do it are
you are you with a particular
organization
no I come to you as a citizen okay all
right
I love the education part of that too
because uh
I know uh people are putting stuff in
Vapes they are and The Vaping is
becoming that's what happened you know
with those two children and that you
know I think we're gonna have to break
that cycle we're gonna have to educate
deeply
you know
back in yeah if you wanted to go into
the CPR or medical training
there's grants out there that you could
probably do something
that you know Emergency Management bdh
does uh AED training they have a AED
grants so you might we might be able to
work you know two or three grants at the
same time to get one training program is
that does that make sense I agree I
agree with the equipment allocation too
I think that is a need to have it on
site and have it with you on a
consistent because I carry the Narcan
with me and my vehicle too I'll take the
training uh under Lori yeah and you know
they were real they wanted us to keep it
with us on a consistent basis in case we
when you might need it no and
coming to you know affiliated with my
career or my organization but I'm faced
with this a lot sadly I'm the domestic
violence advocate for Russell County and
three people Incorporated so sadly the
domestic violence and addiction a lot I
mean it's 95 it's tied in hand in hand
and in and it does not as you all know
addiction does not just affect the
addict it affects the family it affects
the children it affects everyone around
that is involved in that so that's where
I think too so that we can hopefully
with the goal of stopping the the
children our youth that is involved in
it you know if we can stop that going
forward you know for them not to choose
the same path because I mean they're
taught what they're
no you know
that children are product of their
environment they they are and I have had
a few instances myself which has broke
my heart that the children have gone
home and called 9-1-1 or are panicked
and not called 9-1-1 and ran into a
family members or a neighbor's home
because they can't get mom or dad awake
and they're overdose so you know we may
not be able to break the stock we're not
going to be able to break the cycle
we're not going to stop
what right we can help them feel safer
in their environment to say if I see Mom
or Dad like this I know what to do so if
we educate them and make them feel safer
in their home in our County because I
mean the reality of it is we're not
stopping addiction I wish we could but
we're not it's been here since before I
was born and it's going to continue and
we can offer every resource Under the
Sun to an addict and and pray that they
take it but until they want it it's no
different than us overeating I love food
okay I'm dying right now trying not to
eat my dad's brownies
I mean
well he doesn't
no they are at his house anyway
um it's the same thing like it's
whatever your addiction is
um and until you want that until you
want to give it up you're not gonna do
it with every resource available
um but I like having the resources
available so that when we do have them
wanted we've got it and again to educate
the children say that as they are
growing they know there are resources
available and they are again safer in
their environment so if they are faced
with that and they're friends one other
thing and I'm sorry I'm keeping you but
when I went to school and and I played
Sports and stuff like Castlewood
um I played here at Lebanon so like my
friends we were all living them playing
them ball we climbed together Castlewood
was Castlewood home acre was High maker
it's not that way these days they have
travel ball and they're all mingling
within the different counties from out
of state they have cars my mom just let
me go to Lebanon and back over Cleveland
mountain now they're driving my nephews
instead for driving to Johnson City
they're bringing this stuff in it's they
have everything is just open to them so
I really think if we can educate our
adults and you know elderly have have
them educated and prepared so if their
children come in and bring it home but
like you said just focus on the
education too and preparing the children
that they're faced with and as they as
they go on
however we tweak this program these are
just some ideas I am you do not have to
agree I'm open to constructive criticism
but I would love to work together to
somehow form a program that benefits
each and all of us within our County so
that we all feel safe and also a
neighborhood watch I've been working on
a neighborhood Business program in my
district and I've had people that
I'm working with that are eyes on
because even in our town of Homemaker
which is not advertised but they've made
a couple of huge busts those two came
from even from Kentucky in different
places bringing
all these all these drugs and I mean
they haven't Advertiser to put it out
there but I'm so proud of them what they
did to be able to get that off the
streets and you know a lot of that comes
from a good neighborhood watch program
that people can see well somebody's
coming in I've not seen them before you
know you need to be a little bit
Vigilant about who's coming in who's
trying to get in the hands of her
children I mean these were big stashes
of some bad drugs and it's not just you
know
I wasn't uh dad and I were talking I
said I must have lived a sheltered life
because like in school I knew some of
the kids like they drank alcohol and
stuff but but you you I was raised you
stay away from that and I thought that
all that was there which was like
alcohol maybe some marijuana well now uh
I was told by an officer a couple weeks
ago like these Vapes that are again
being laced through manufacturers with
the Fentanyl and staff they're selling
them in school for two dollars a puff
um
our schools yes like right here
um all of our schools within our County
they're selling those and and they're
they're purchasing bringing them in that
is lice with fentanyl
um heroin I mean huge steps that you
know you just think is off from here
it's here
um and I think it is a blessing that we
have these funds to be able to fit them
to use and to utilize that within our
County and and it's not going to be
perfect but I think if we work together
and tweak something then we can create a
safer environment for our County
so you're very passion
I am I have two children
well you're welcome and I appreciate you
all I know you have a hard job and you
know you get critiqued a lot
um but I do appreciate each and every
one of you
um and and we all may not agree and
that's okay
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um
no the people who had to give money and
the settlements that dictated a lot of
rules they wanted you know you know
basically
squeak around and get us notified
and I've worked with grants and staff
before and I would like to say too and
this is a part of my passion too
obviously I was raised born and raised
here and grew up and I take great pride
in our County and our towns and I would
love and I know this is new but there's
so much red tape with this
um and I would love to be able for all
of us to work together do that correctly
and then Russell County be showcased for
this is how they spent their funds and
this is what they did for their
community
this is part of this communication
absolutely yeah and and I'll say this uh
one other thing and this was one of my
my greatest concerns
um so it's Narcan there is no liability
for us either because I was thinking
okay I have two kids they are
mischievous at times I have a 14 year
old son 10 year old daughter
um so I thought okay if I have this on
hand what could happen if they were to
accident or purposefully give it to each
other well there are no side effects and
if you are not don't already have the
opiates and you receive that there are
no side effects it cannot kill you and
so it is so safe to even have on hand
anywhere in the home in your vehicles
and that makes me feel better too to be
able to Branch out into the communities
um
but if you do have any other questions
if not I'm going for dads or brownies
and the issue you're welcome and on the
top of the paper that I gave each of you
is my contact information and so if you
would like to get together I would be
happy to if you need a full presentation
and just let me know keep working on
that and I think your heart is in the
right place and I'm just real proud of
you for coming up and stepping forward
thank you so much thank you all
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thank you
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alrighty yes
now we're continuing on to the real good
stuff right Lonzo yes ma'am
the real good stuff
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while you're setting up as we work
through this
um
I'm encouraging everybody to keep this
these documents and and continue to
bring them back and forth to us so that
we don't have to create more of these
so that's your homework for the next
three months
is it over on top of that
I'm ready
all right
good afternoon board it's at get it's
that time again with the
time of the year of course we're
entering the budget workshops and the
state budgets at this time
um as we go through this this is the
first time I I think well it is the
first time that we've had the full board
in workshops continuously through the
whole process
so
I tried to think of ways to be able to
present to you because there's so many
information there's so many departments
that's coming in so what I was going to
do first of all is go through what we're
going to go through the revenue and
expenses and we'll look at to be saying
this is the first meeting of the
workshop and the board as a whole and
this won't be the last so this will be
more of an orientation this will be a
introduction into the budget processes
and decisions that we've made of course
the second reason is we're going to have
more budget meetings is due to the state
is only past what we call a skinny
budget version so we do have some of the
numbers better than last year because it
was a really uh budget uh
hold up last year due to the state and
the numbers we had to wait late into the
year so some of these numbers have came
through so we can establish some of
these at least to where we can start the
process and get ahead of the game and
not to hold it up with
what I'm going to start off with is this
course the uh
as any budget does we're going to start
off with taxes and revenue that's that's
where we begin and way I have broke this
down is of course I wanted to show
the board what it what we have in
revenues to operate the county
uh departments we have 55 different
departments and programs within the
county whether that's County operated
State operated or Grant operator there's
55 and you'll get to see some of those
tonight
as you can see first on the revenue on
the general property taxes and these
have been confirmed off assessments as
you can see our assessment has went down
approximately a hundred thousand our
course our mineral tax has went down up
you know seven percent as you look
through this you'll see our personal
property that is the public service
taxes that has went down almost
approximately seven percent for a total
of 16 million 474. as that is our
general property passes that's the real
estate mineral personal property mobile
home Machining tools and of course two
key components in there is penalty and
interest that's the principle in the
interest that we make off of these taxes
for a total of 6.474
that went down a total of eight tenths
of one percent now
as we go through the other local taxes
that's it so we go through the sales tax
the colon Severance meal tax and the
guaranteed tax the cigarette tax these
set of taxes what we call other local
taxes it is equivalent to 3.9 million
dollars
as we keep going down as you can see as
we keep going down the pages of these
light items they keep getting smaller
and smaller my point it will be and you
will see in a few in a second
as we move through the next component
which will be the permit and the
regulatory in the license this is only
fifty eight thousand dollars now
the next component of the revenue line
items is the use of uh funds and
property this is a hundred and ten
thousand dollars this is equivalent to
what it was last year
next in the kind of line is is Services
now this is services that we pick up for
gel and inmate fees
the mission blood test
Etc construction now in this component
as you can see I have highlighted is
only 195 thousand dollars the reason
being is I go through these the ones I
have a high delighted in blue is only
funds that the board has authority to
play with to move to utilize these other
ones are are dedicated either to a grant
to a program or to a service so if we
click that feed that has to pay for that
service so we have a hundred ninety five
thousand dollars that will go back to
cover our disposal fee operations based
off the total cost that we run for that
year now as you can see as we move
through these
on this page here this is 20 million
dollars twenty million 741 and 850. that
is the total taxes off of this on this
one page
between the general revenues and the
license and fees
now as we move through the budget
our miscellaneous Revenue it gets
shorter you'll see this list get very
short as you can see the library fines
library donations
that we cannot touch that is dedicated
of course to the library and what they
use for operations as you'll see also
within the miscellaneous Revenue line
items is the sheriff's department
Revenue school resource offices and
SeaTac these are operations are
dedicated to these programs they cannot
be utilized or anything other than these
programs now we do have two components
in there which is of course tax
collection fees which is Alicia's job
she she we do that and the conference
center which you know we we that also
offsets our costs in the conference
center to keep the rates low as we do
when people do birthdays or weddings
out of that total page of recovery cost
of all of these line items as we keep
going through let's go down to recovery
cost
now these this line item component is
recover cost that we collect back
through one DSS is sitting here because
we run through their their payroll their
pension their and their vrs and the rest
these are costs that we collect bad for
various operations whether it's dsas the
Ida the health department the PSA for
fuel reimbursement these are recovered
costs as it says
so these things are dedicated to those
programs those operations you we can't
utilize those in our operations those go
specifically for those operations
next on the the revenue and I know I'm
going through this fast so y'all have to
slow me down because we're going through
approximately 30 million dollars really
quick
we get to the revenue from the
Commonwealth now of this one of the 2.9
Million dollars that we have as you can
see I have it all sectioned off that you
can utilize
as we go through this is DMV selects DMV
stops the Rolling Stock tax
communication taxes passport fees and
you will see one new line item in there
this year this is the regional
Improvement commission which is the
casino
you have not seen this in there before
but as you can see we have added those
estimates in based off of what we set in
the casino is collecting and dividing
between the 13 counties this is what
we're estimating to be able to utilize
that comes out to 2.9 Million Dollars
from the the Commonwealth of Virginia
that we're able to use but what you got
to remember is these revenues from the
Commonwealth are almost like a fee
of course fee stops depends on how many
DMV stocks we do it's not a set amount
so what what we get after mobile home
filing taxes and ATV it is a fee it's a
fee that's coming through the
Commonwealth for our operations same way
the casino
so proportion it's all based off of it
the next category of course is one of
the ones that always gets confused they
say okay we have shared expenses we have
the Commonwealth's attorney's Department
we have the sheriff's department
commissioner
circuit clerk that is the Constitution
offices those funds come directly
insured by the state they are not at the
Tommy of the Board of Supervisors to be
able to do anything or move that money
those are dedicated for those Services
based off our demographics in population
those each department is up to
and accountable only to the Constitution
officers and the state did that so
and I don't get into politics but under
the code of Virginia that way if you had
one board versus another party versus
another party you couldn't come in and
cut the opposite party's resources
so these services that come to these
funds go directly to each one of these
Constitution officers and you're
required by law to give it to them for
those operations based off our
population and demographics
what that equals to is 3.2 million
dollars that you don't get to utilize
and the next category is of course
grants
that's self-explanatory
as
Grant Library a grants and uh
DME transfer grants fire program grants
again it's specific per program these
can only be utilized it cannot be used
as a General Revenue these are for the
programs in the grants
now
hey we're already at the end of our tax
base that's how fast we went through
this so what we do all that you've seen
in blue
is 23 million 727.
503.
that's all you have to operate from the
real estate
all the way through the fees that you
have authority over there's 23 million
seven
these are real numbers
these are historical
these are based off the program
through each and every program now
it doesn't mean that's all the county
gets that's how the Board of Supervisors
can utilize to run its County operations
of course you will see
if we run through Special Operations in
Revenue you have co-saverance taxes
that's hated roads that's the only thing
it can be used for by a lot
the day this
the DSs funds that's dedicated
we the CSA funds that are dedicated
of course the asset program
in that that's 36 million dollars
and the kids of course the last one of
them out
which as you can see historically is
about six to nine thousand dollars a
year that's both both canneries
operating
all throughout the year that's combined
so again you have seven three to work
from and that includes the new 600 000
from the casino
the cigarette tax the meal tax all the
way back to your real estate that's it
so now how does that play into our
operations now
25 major
they are
now this is what I guess
thank you
now this one is the one that when you go
through it as you go through Russell
County Public Schools is 9.1 million
dollars
so as we move through these and I have
to move up not then I'm walking and
talking but I have to be able to see
this thing here is the 25 major core
budget operations
Public Schools is 9 million Regional
Jail contracts is 2.3 almost 4 million
dollars by itself
if I throw it if on the landfill in the
transfer station that we got to do by
law which is by contracts is 1.45
if based off of school Russell County
courts Russell County security which we
got to do by the Virginia Supreme Court
is 3.3 million dollars now that doesn't
include all of the operations over here
because a lot of the news is paid by the
states and grants that's just the county
sheriff this is only County funds that
are going to be utilized out of the 27
million dollars
now Russell County Disposal Services as
you will see
I'll show you how that all sets here in
a second
that's 965 000. we got facility
operations which includes electricity
Water and Sewer all all the government
buildings community centers Parks
everything we run on
913 thousand dollars the day of services
which we have taken down since y'all
have been in the office is only 981 000
a year what does that include that
includes this big government facility it
also includes all your water projects
dick inherited way back when it's almost
like the by Administration you've
inherited all this debt you have
inherited all these projects all these
sewer water projects over the years and
that's what the load is down too
as you go through
the next one of course is the community
Department of Social Services and CSA
which is 855 thousand dollars
575. next is the Russell County
Sheriff's Department 652 thousand
dollars now
that sounds low again you're back into
the Constitution officers because you've
got to remember the state pays for all
those Constitution officers this is only
652 thousand dollars only pays for their
cars their gas their oil their
electricity their water their sewer
that's what it takes to operate the
whole County or the year for the
sheriff's department the rest is paid by
the state Virginia
next
you got 911 services you got fire and
rescue and I'll go into those a little
bit here in a minute Russell County
Health Department Cumberland Mountain
Community Service Board
Southwest Community College the race
program today y'all implemented
the County financial services and audit
the Electoral board which is another
mandatory under electoral register
the Russell County Emergency Management
The Building Services and Assessor the
Appalachian senior citizens
the carcs recreation parks and community
centers the sewer project
Virginia Tech that's the VPI that sells
the Cal for the counts the for this
County which is about approximately
seven million dollars a year that y'all
contribute a hundred thousand to they
sell over seven million annually in
cattle
and of course the County's insurance
program that covers our bowler insurance
and our building insurance and Etc
and then your big number for
contributions
I hate to say it as you can see our poor
little contributions to what we give to
these non-profits is twenty six thousand
two hundred fifty dollars our 23 million
seven hundred
there's your 25 core I've seen so if I
look back basically go back to from the
public schools all the way through
number 10 the 911 service I'm at 20
million immediately 20 million of the
27. immediately
so then
some of the concerns that I hear Too is
okay in
our major core budgets what do we have
as a breakdown of County Employees it's
County funded employees because they say
oh you got all these County Employees
you got all these people in doing this
well let me give you a complete this
morning picture we have 41 fully funded
County Employees that's it
those 41 seven of them are at the
landfill to do the landfill and run all
the disposal trucks
I got Administration I got four register
one treasure two tax collector one judge
secretary one Community work creating
coordinator one animal control three
Bill inspector 2 Mercy management one
building maintenance 3 housekeeping two
which takes care of the government
center and the courthouse that's it I
got two housekeepers
tourism one Conference Center one
library four
Kelly's here and 9-1-1 Services I got
five
so between landfill and 9-1-1 that's
about the majority of the employees we
have 41 full-time County funded
employees this was just raining this
morning from current payroll so that's
how many full-time employees that we
have how many part-time do we have well
let's give you a breakdown on that one
too Town Administration got one
Building Maintenance got one literal
control one the court ballast we have
three dispatch I've got two Community
work program that works with us gives us
all this labor we've got two
now in disposal sites and landfill
operations we have tweenie that sounds
like a lot but let me give you some of
these ones that work part-time only do
10 hours
this is not the majority of the cost and
I'll show you that in a minute too the
library has seven which some of them
works very low hours so they come in as
Kelly needs them in utilize them for a
total of 37. so that's it
so as we went through these 25 cores
and looked at the full-time employees
which a county of our size that has
almost
26 000 let's use twenty six thousand as
a population
I've we've searched I have looked I've
went to other counties anyone that has
population this size has a population
employees in the 70s to 80s
that's just go back and Google if y'all
want to and look see what you want to
but that's what we have had between
full-time and part-time employees based
off what we've got what y'all got to
remember is as as y'all have developed
these over the years our employees have
worked you know to to provide these
services with less people
and
so
and to continue on from the part-time
and uh one of the ones I want to do is
next is of course here is the real
estate and the mineral tax and the
personal property of course the personal
property that was an issue last year so
let's go through it
first on the personal property taxes
we've got the new Enad books last year
we had uh
today we have collected four million
seven hundred twenty three dollars in
230 4 million seven hundred twenty three
thousand two hundred thirty five dollars
to date
we had to
do what
okay
okay I don't know how much it was so
it's when it ran but anyhow as Alicia
knows we had to once it paid early we
had to reimburse a 360 thousand six
hundred twenty four dollars which gave
us a total net of four million three
hundred sixty two dollars in in 362 611.
now we had budgeted which is those two
numbers that to the left if you add up
to three million seven eighty one and
two fifty then that is 4 million and
thirty one thousand dollars now we were
using delinquency remember that was part
of the conversations that we were trying
to do what is their legacy rate how are
we going to hit that number so between
them both we ended up collecting 331 611
from these topics not from residential
cars let me assure you it was from
businesses
all the RVs the 21 and 22 cars that
maintained and kept their property
you got to remember they started the
business classes you got tractor and
trailers you got big trucks out you got
Kaiser Trucking here it's got a major
major you know equipment that's here we
only made 331 000 out of all of these
equipment from all these businesses to
sit here that's it yeah none that's it
so when we projected the personal
property rebate we projected out a
million and two as you can see right
here in the lower column it says tax
rebate that was projected and that was
the resolution that y'all passed a
million and 200 million 200 a million
and two thousand
we ended up giving back in personal
property 1 million forty seven thousand
seven hundred and ninety four dollars
which is forty five thousand seven
ninety four more than we had
appropriated where does that come from
well
we had that kind of comes from the
abatements and I guess you know out of
some of the business tax the real estate
tax we had to move it out of the
business so we had to supplement the tax
break so again that's how close we got
this thing out of 26
763 cars we hit it within a forty five
thousand dollar Mark that's pretty good
I think we did good I drove the Tracer
crazy during that time so you ain't
gonna let her come in tonight but
but we gave back to Russell County
residents everything that they would do
retro back to
calendar your 2021 dollar for dollar car
for car rebate for rebate
so it worked out really well now
moving on to my next one is of course
the
um Casino funds
now the casino funds is not in this and
because it's in the current year budget
but one of the things that I wanted to
propose remember this is only County
Administrator suggestions only y'all
have six hundred thousand dollars so
under the terms of conditions this is
money that has these terms and
conditions to it so we can use it for
three things
one education second is Public Safety
the third is transportation no
disrespect to VDOT and I hope they're
listening they can't have none of the
money I would not suggest you giving it
to VDOT because they already get a
portion as you can see it's called
severance
and they have other programs and they
have their own State money so if we look
at education and Public Safety the way I
have broke it down to is this
and
on the proposal is paying for
the race program and the college program
which is 233
000 and 201 if y'all y'all when y'all go
through your budgets over the weekend
you'll have look at this and you'll be
able to look
and let me go down to
you display size
so let me go down to General register
so what I did I took six hundred
thousand and I said okay how can we
utilize it within each one of the
programs again this is kind of County
Administrator suggestions only
how can we use it as you can see right
there is the college
and that's two two hundred and three
that is Page 41 sir
41.
no one review
you go to read mode so y'all can see
right there it is now I've got it
towards we can see it now
so that's 233 200 201 for svcc which is
we're clouded by law to pay that based
off of our demographics a number of
students that go to school and graduate
from our high school and the race
program together that that's the total
comprehensive 233 201 now how did we
again so it's education and Public
Safety so the way I said okay the of
course the fire came in and asked out
for additional funding so as
so what I did was as we went through
this hang on just a second let me get
back down through here
to my pages
oops
okay
sorry about that
okay as you can see on the screen
last year we we gave to the fire
departments 26 000 uh page okay you want
to see 20.
page 24. I'll do that for now 24.
page 24 or 61 yes sir
yeah because her and I have quite a few
conversations about this
okay
of course
you've got all the fire departments that
come and spoke and they were right they
they haven't been give raised in many
years we knew that and y'all helped out
a lot it with with covid money you
helped a lot with arpa funds
uh with the radios the digital radios
that y'all gave and the annual Lobby so
when you're given an extra thousand
right now to even cover their fuel costs
a total of what the net we've got is
being over 1.6 million dollars that
y'all have given to them over the last
30 months so 1.6 million
yes
so that includes the radio it's radios
by themselves with six hundred thousand
dollars to get them up to the digital
component and that was to give of them
so
I
so
now between 11 and Cleveland dang
Honaker St Paul Belfast and papa Creek
moccasin as you can see from the 26 6
how can we do this firingly between all
three components or two components the
public safety and education so
here's we raised again 50 now this
reason that we did this because this
year our 600 000 we don't have a
definite number on that this is a very
big estimate that we have we're going
with the most realistic estimate that we
can have from the casino Board of what
we got to be able to share now if this
adjusts next year becomes more
profitable then we'll be able to adjust
it next year but right now based off of
equal share and this is also did we do
and I put this internet is a discretion
of the board supervisors
we raise the fire department's 50 but we
also raised the rescue 50 percent
to be fair between all 13 departments
they all went up approximately 50
percentage
as you can see and that is on the next
page too as the rescue you'll see the
that it went from Thirty one thousand
three seventy five to forty seven oh
sixty three
and they have the same problems and
issues whether you're talking to merge
Emergency Services both of them has that
big insurance payment annually that's
that's the big hurdles that they have
they already have problems with getting
personnel and qualified people but the
insurance is always a big problem on
both sides whether it's the fire or
whether it's the rescue because of
whatever that they have to do they have
to do Bingo or donations or be enabled
to you know take up uh you know
charitable contributions and be able to
get it that that insurance is always
what I hear the biggest thing the hurdle
that they have to be able to operate so
this will free up some of their money to
be able to subsidize the insurance but
also be able to operate efficiently
within the county
now the next
yes ma'am
so we're working with six hundred
thousand dollars give or take
a casino yes ma'am
is and then another 200 here for the
rescue we've already eat air six hundred
thousand dollars no no
they increase
my increase on the fire and rescue is
156
875 dollars
156 875.
oh they need to speak into the money
okay okay sorry okay
okay
the question that I had was I by the
looks of what I'm looking at it looked
like we had already spent air because to
every bit of our Casino money plus some
okay so again it is a difference of 156
thousand p75 eight as as you can see
when we went through the numbers and you
know we sit down with these and the fire
departments currently get 26.6 they also
you know get grants from the annual fire
program but just what did the county
dedicates is 26.6 we've moved those to
an even 40 at 50 percent
through all the fire departments and
then we stepped out they said okay if
we're going to be fired to the fire
we're going to be fired to the rescue so
let's move 50 up to them so that's we
work we backed ourselves into these
numbers well what hitting that 50 I
thought wow 50 increase in one year
that's a big accomplishment without
raising taxes in 23 years and hitting
all these benchmarks and and I know they
deserve it and they and it's not right
for them have to worry about the fuel in
the car or what they need to be able to
operate whether it's a Rescue Unit or a
fire unit so we've asked where this is
again y'all wanted it done
I came in at the numbers I could come in
buy the program to be able in the first
year to come under the numbers because
the numbers that we got right now is 600
000.
to be able to use it legally between
what we can for Education Public Safety
or Transportation I had to stay within
those guidelines
so to get it share and equal to be able
to go between the next component that I
have suggested which is Court operations
now of course this is Public Safety
that we have increased up to take care
of that and that includes the the
community work program through this and
that's 209
924 in court operations so if you add up
156 000 875 for the fire and rescue 233
201 for Southwest and the race program
until 9 9 24 for the court operations
which is what we have to do it is a
total of six hundred thousand dollars
that's how fast we went through this so
it sounds like a lot of number but it
went really quick but each one of these
programs is worth that funding the roast
direct you know you got the race program
you got to fire the rescue you've got
the court operations and that's what the
funding was intended for and what
discussed
209 924
that that that's moved in into the dis
the circuit courts the district courts
it's split up between all three courts
yes
till 9 9 24.
yeah in community Workforce we had to
increase every you know all those
operations as a whole so
and that sounds like a lot but at 200
000 just was a breeze to go through
three ports
so
so that's a total of six hundred
thousand now like I said this is County
Administrator what y'all wanted so I was
trying to get it equal and fair that was
my only objective so if y'all have a
different idea that's at y'all
discretion so
of course so we've discussed the casino
funds we have discussed the personal
property which we're getting current
comps on right now we're looking at what
the January comes on the personal
property is and to be able to get them
from the neada yes everyone knows I've
got some a lot of cars that went down
some of the trucks in the SUVs have
maintained their value and we're trying
to get a five percentile of what this
will do to impact was it within 45 000
so let's try this again and get it to
get this correct so that we're not
pulling out from the business
and being able to do that we should have
that soon now the next one is the best
consideration of all some of y'all aware
of it you probably heard about it is the
waste management contract
that is the largest unknown that I have
dealt with this year so
and that's that's going to be
as as Tim and Carl no they said on that
board
that it could come in
at even dollar or 250 000 higher so
that's that's the range I mean that's
about as close as we can get with a dart
is that all right is that not the
numbers y'all were hearing too so that's
the one of the things that we can hear
so what we'll do we do if it comes in at
250
000 higher
now
of course
we will have to go back to these
low-hanging fruit again
as you know and take a look at the
numbers
I have built in
at least a hundred thousand increase
into the waste management of the 250.
now how well we do on those negotiations
between the transport and the landfill
The Tipping fees that's how well we'll
come out
so right now we got about a hundred and
fifty thousand dollar variants that we
may have to deal with when it comes
available
thank you
and I'm not going to ask for the fee
this year
I'm not going there
again
of of the total again we have 55
departments that we fund you know how do
we do this you said okay we've got 25
core departments we got 55 how do we do
this now
this is how
when this board I'm going to go back in
history and I I usually don't do this
but when y'all took over 2016.
this County was running a 1.5 million
dollar deficit you're going how did we
do that how did discount Iran deficit
well let me give you the answer and
here's such a treasure we ran off a
three million Rand note
they were running on borrowed money so
you were running on three million over
the years
and you had a BB rating Bond rating
through s p and Moody's which you
couldn't even borrow money on a water
project sewer project or economic
development project you had to back off
on the town of Lebanon period when you
came you had a double b bond rate
through s p and Moody's you could not
for this sewer water project or an
economic development project right now
you have a double a bond rating and
they're backing up with your bond ready
the counties that's that state we have
no Rand notes we have gave out
on the bond rating
um what does that apply to so I did a
little analogy just on the Quick Loan
that we were doing even if it went
through only three million dollar loan
between a b and b
Bond rating in an A and a bond writing
is this on a three million dollar loan
we can pull at two percent at six
hundred forty thousand dollars a year in
interest I mean or I mean 640 000 over a
20-year interest
now if we go to uh
a bond an a
a plus we can get it at 5.5 over 20
years it's 1.9 million in interest
half of the if you go higher than that
then a three million dollar 6.5 which is
current market watch the rates
2.3 million dollars so you're going from
640 to 2.3 just off your bond rate that
means it's going to tie your hands on
any water sewer or economic development
project you got you can't go borrow
three million dollars it's going to
borrow a three million dollar loan you
have to pay three million in interest
over 20 years
they don't even make good businesses
you can't jeopardize that bond rate
y'all fixed it it's stable we had we
lived within your means
as as y'all have done since
2015 y'all have Consolidated disposals
departments the landfill operations
you've restructured the contracts you
brought Services in-house
you're utilizing the community work
programs
and right now you you Consolidated the
health insurance it went from a 1.5
million dollar deficit to a six plus
million surplus
also over the eight years you have gave
23 pay increases and two bonuses if you
approve this budget here which has seven
percent built in
since 2015 you have gave a 30 percent
increase in salary now that sounds like
a lot then you've given it to a lot of
the employees but let's not be confused
on this and I don't want to inflate like
we're we're just really well paid
employees when you all took overs right
then I've got 14 employees that are
full-time that make minimum wage of
those 41. 14 of those 41 are minimum
wage we're not running off a high when
you file first start you know how much
they were making
I got the payroll officer here seven
bucks an hour that's what they were
living on full time seven bucks an hour
that's what their salary was
in in this amount of years in the eight
years that you're going on they had you
give 30 pay raises if this one's
approved along with two bonuses
and you still I hate to say it of the 14
that is still at minimum wage to keep up
with it Kelly would tell you she's got
four right now they're still at minimum
wage
that's the twelve dollars an hour
that's that's the way the numbers have
worked out the rate of inflation that
y'all have inherited the debt y'all
inherited is this outpacing y'all
haven't raised taxes so y'all have only
way you can never make these numbers
work is the cut cost this is there is no
way you can do this mathematics you
either cut house cut services or operate
efficiently now how do they do that and
you go okay I've got 25 departments but
overall I'm doing 55 and if I go down
through as you'll look at the budget
here's what the county did each and
every year in budget now this has
already been audited
so
right here as you can see
in 2020 we came out with 415 000 under
we had a fourteen four four hundred
fifteen thousand dollar Surplus
2021 we had a million and last year we
had 853 how did we do that
you
yes some of it is I'm back it is your
your employees that are working for you
that you gave the 30 percent
don't spend their budgets they work on a
on a shoestring they under spend their
budget they don't they're very very
conservative so when you get it after
and they say that I hear all these
comments I throw on Facebook and and
YouTube but you're you're wasting your
this and your fraud come on stand before
my objects I'll let the feds stand right
here before you come to my office I'll
have the feds in the state right here
with you talking to you
let's hear your words because I've got
14 that make
the county does that makes minimum wage
where is the waste you see the number of
employees these are the real numbers
y'all have done an excellent job at this
you have done an excellent job
I don't know if I could run my house
with the same numbers or not
because we have cops we have
conservative costs the people have
worked they don't spend I I got I got a
judge and I'm not going to say which
judge he is the most conservative people
I have I even all of them are like this
they won't spend it they see it
inconservative we got to be conservative
we can't spend that
we reuse paper listen to this and she
knows I'm right here we recycle paper we
run papers through the perimeters twice
and I'm going where's the waste of the
view set it's that's not real it's not
factual it's a lie I'll prove it anybody
comes to my office I'll show you
period period
so now
as
I hate to I hate to say it because our
County employees are so dedicated and I
they work on the bare minimum of course
everything can be tweaked and and and
made better but overall to get to those
numbers I'm not talking you know wasting
pencils you know that's not the big
money you got to to move these kind of
operations you can't worry about pencils
and pins where it's wasting pieces of
paper these are real numbers to operate
the gifting Services back to the
residents to make it work a ydr could
they get better yes
and we are getting better at it it's one
step at a time y'all making the Right
Moves you have done the Right Moves and
you've kept that again and how do you
know you got a double a bond rating
you know that when you walk before the
banks and I can tell you who who looks
at your bond rating is Maguire and woods
the top Financial Bond rating company in
Virginia period
they don't if I say the first uh
submitted a set of financials to them on
a water project economic development
project you think they're going to just
go well whatever Alonzo puts in the
budget and that is it they run those
numbers and it better be profitable or
you would not be able to fool the
biggest Bond rating agency in the state
of Virginia
I got one question Lonzo I know we've
worked really hard on the net server
and uh how what what's left on this
building how many years
it's about going there I got I got two
two years in and a quarter that's it
because I know we discussed it a lot
knowing that the courthouse project was
coming available and yes and the judge
is willing to work with this this full
board uh to help us not get that service
down because the payments would
would wash out the way we structured
this with the ra and Maguire and woods
is when these cup the courthouses be it
and the renovations are done the payment
that's here
that's that's here on the government
facility will mature it will be done and
you will start paying the payments on
the courthouse we're not returning more
debt yeah right Lord no we we've worked
too yeah I just wanted to ask you that
because that was a great move or
achievement that we worked toward yes we
did we did a deferral on that worked for
VRA McGuire and woods we again y'all had
a double a bond rating if you as a
company come in with a B there was no
way they was going to work with you on
that kind of deferment and that kind of
movement there would be in no way
tough
I know because when we first got elected
I was like we had these budget meetings
I was like oh my God we got ourselves
and and if y'all want to talk about that
let's go with the courthouse you started
off with the 16 million dollar project
you're three million dollars on a
project right now that's how well this
is going it's under budget under budget
and on time yeah we got a few
we used we used somebody yeah some kind
of money
yes and that's one of the things we do
we we got very Innovative and I didn't
know it when we did it because I was
used to working projects where we bought
the materials
through the state and that's why I'm
doing this one and you've done a
wonderful job so you've done a wonderful
job on the tax savings alone is about
150 000 savings just running under the
bulk of the state contracts we've saved
over three hundred thousand that's
almost that's over 450 to 500 000 and my
ladies will tell you I'm glad they're
not here that we you know they we Vicki
would tell you the volume is
unbelievable we got contractors and
subcontractors that we have to watch and
we do it you know in alignment but it's
it's going and and it's working well it
doesn't matter to us tonight but how
much did evington's come in at
Washington counties 30 million and let
me tell you
and the funny thing is they have called
and they've said that so they said they
called me and said how is Russell County
doing your courthouse so cheap they have
done that they they Washington County no
this is this is actually it's piggy
banking on our contracts
so what happened is when we did the
contract we got before the inflation
period we locked it we have not uh we
have what we call the guaranteed minimum
price contract doesn't matter what
happens that's the maximum price of that
contract they will fulfill it in every
component of that contract for a
guaranteed minimum price we also
included every day that they're late a
thousand dollars a day penalty for every
day they're late and that is not in
place and not open other than for
weather days
now they get a day for day weather days
which is confirmed which is done day by
day but you know Washington County
started off at the same price as theirs
it's now 30 million
our materials cost did go up
yes it is
and one of the things that we did to
help
and me and yes one of the things that we
did on the concrete in the steel which
we got under the inflation period was we
bought the steel brought it in and
staged it before the prices hit the
market on increase if we hadn't we'd
lost
a half a million dollars
next thing I want to ask you sorry are
we all oh can we move off the courthouse
just a minute
um going on to uh the core budget
operations for number 22 the Russell
County PSA dank sewer 130 000 are we
ever gonna get that paid for
uh we're gonna get all of this paper
yeah well I mean I understand that
it 130 000 the pound payoff that 130 000
is
we run through what we get from revenue
we make revenue on the day yes yes
we have approximately 223 customers up
there that we collect Revenue off of we
it pays for all the people down there
the operations materials and it's a net
so uh at 130 that you see let's go back
to so when we get air when we get our
new sewer
um that's going into the regional sewer
in St Paul
what happens you don't you're not going
to need that are you
we're not going
okay hang on a second let me let me get
so that's going to go away
sorry you can save that till next month
that's homework
wait a minute let me get to computers
right there we go okay now sorry about
that
okay the dance sewer now when the new
sewer plant gets pretty new sewer system
gets put in which we had BSA had a
meeting today
so uh that cost will be taken off the
books that that's that that sewer cost
that plant will be taken off yes yes and
that's a reface financing and what y'all
got to remember what we're doing
meantime that's another cost y'all have
but we're still going to save 100 000 a
year on the leachate yeah that's why
he's getting ready to go too thank you
that's where I was getting ready to go
to we at one time until two years ago we
were running our our leche through the
town 11. well we paid a contract and
that was equivalent to two things one
125 000 just for the leche treatment
alone to the trucking component was 75
to 80 000 which is a total of a quarter
of a million that's part of that cost
y'all cut when I say the landfill y'all
cut a quarter of a million dollars just
in the leche treatment we moved it to
the date in the meantime to the new
sewer system gets put in and we're
operating on ourselves and you for fifty
thousand dollars a year that's how
that's we went from 250 to 50. so that's
cutting more costs that's how you're
doing this between the County Employees
reduction of debt cost savings
implementing all these in-services again
let let
put it in perspective
we have 477 square miles all these parts
all these buildings we have three
maintenance people three uh you've seen
it right there it is three three
three I mean they're you're not going to
operate on a more to restraining a case
if well I've got waste misabuse
mismanagement please come to my office
I like to see you set before me
say that again I didn't hear you I'm
sorry
[Laughter]
yeah we have to prioritize we and and I
know y'all getting patient we and y'all
y'all want stuff done
y'all got project we started scheduling
y'all had me scheduling project in
December for March and that's they know
that each one of y'all has your own
little projects but you got you know the
guys know what between what skill
workers we do have you gotta admit it is
the best work you've seen I mean they do
good work they do good work and I got to
give them their due I mean I mean we
their skill sets is I'm perfect I mean
you'll never find them and Tim can't
Harold I worked I worked for the school
[Laughter]
but the point is in the in your final
thoughts is y'all y'all have done a good
job you cut I don't believe what that
nonsense that you hear out there let me
show you the numbers these are the real
numbers this is what VRA the big
agencies do
so
you tell me where it is yeah please yes
you show me
you I'll be uh if I have to
[Laughter]
I I have a open door policy not that we
won't get it right but like I said this
is all we've got this is all we operate
with if you can show me show me I mean
I've got 14 now 41 this one
minimum wage what are you going to do
and I can tell you right now let me and
before we go on the final thoughts we've
hired we hired one for 9-1-1 you know
how important that is on emergency
dispatch to be able to get them get them
in and get them trained on a mercy
Mansion to work with our fire and rescue
departments by the way that does a great
job
we hired one they called us the day that
we're getting ready to show up he said
we're sorry we're turning down your job
we went to Walmart there
15 15 16 an hour Walmart we can't even
imagine to do Emergency Management
I got remember those numbers here
part-time 911 services got five part
times right there as you can see it
works in Emergency Management all right
9-1-1
and that he decided to go to there
we we had one to quit today with
disposal
we went to another County but labor is
hard to get
and to get dedication how do you do that
how do why do they stay at that wage and
Kelly and the rest of them want to have
their department is
y'all's benefits if if they they're high
tenures that you've got benefits and vrs
in those programs if they didn't
there'd be gone
no it did not the cost did not go up or
yeah we're getting ready to have those
budget meetings too
I mean uh Health Plan meetings
but
again y'all haven't raised taxes in 23
years this was the I said last year this
to give you a balanced budget
with a seven percent increase for for
employees
now how did you do that like I said it
each department is working together to
get this well I'll tell you the good
Lord's blessed is County you can bet the
good Lord's bless this County and we
need his blessings continually last year
when I said and had these numbers I said
guys this is the hardest one I've done
in 30 years well guess what this one was
the hardest I have had to do and and I
had real estate going down and me and
Alicia we had some active conversations
[Laughter]
are like missing persons we and she says
you're pushing me and I said I know I'm
having to what I'm ain't going to do but
here's one of the things that y'all have
done for eight years you have lived
within your means
show me come to me show me where you
really could get better at this I will
listen
period period
the only thing that we did on
yeah that that's that's uh that's done
by this that's almost like the nde
well let me give you a break that you
know
yeah with you
here let me give you one point of the
final thought too you mentioned
assessment it's on the it's on the table
next year by the way by Lao we we waited
to the maximum under the code of
Virginia to be able to do I spoke to
Randy either just this morning about it
and and Alicia knows that that's one of
the things that that's we got to get the
assessment done in the study done next
year
now and the second thing is and I'm
going to have to speak you know for the
treasure now we need to set the tax rate
now
we're going to meet
for the board meeting
in April when do you need the tax
tickets done
we could have it uh first or second week
of April
have it said first that's how fast we
got to set this
yes that's your next meeting
that's why I'll have to advertise this
yes
and we will know the end of this month
what
yes the cost comes in hand so fingers
crossed
yeah it's a 31st we'll know yes that's
the only variable that I do not have
covered is that Waste Management
Authority contract it's the only thing I
have not accounted for I mean we went
through we broke
I have a hundred thousand based into the
landfill and that's because that's cause
when last year and how did we get that
we went up last year because during the
pandemic everybody brought the trash we
had more trash and it was buying
everything our tonnage got more
Consolidated so that went down I really
just had it in there I just I received
it in the list tonnage so I'm leaving
the budget line on them alone
we opened them the 31st of this month
but but we don't have to
the contract doesn't expire until
October yeah
how to negotiate you hope yeah
I I'm in those meetings that's how bad
it is he's been coming
the variable I'm watching
and and who knows what we have to do it
may not be what we like we may have to
you know let Tim and the rest of them
when this comes real we may have to come
together to find a solution for it
and it may be you know we'll have to
deal with it but the good thing about it
is like I said is you got a double a
bond rating you can move when you need
to move you can move how you need to
move
without having to raise taxes stay it is
get it and get it more I would have
loved to took you know some of the extra
money that oh the waste management and
done more services but
right now that's real these boys know
that this is a real movement
but it as you work through these two
large reports that I gave you the one
that's proposed the one that is this
year's you'll see our numbers and what
how we estimated these you'll see the
real estate that went down the
components that went down the ones that
went up
and after much discussions with the
treasurer and Commercial Revenue
these are the numbers that we agree on
and like I said we're pretty good at
this
it
it is about that if it's about a hundred
thousand per one cent now that's it
gross not net that's it gross it's gross
yep
and and you got to remember the
Commission of Revenue
and they'll speak for him first and I
will he's got a 90
9.4 rate on the on these estimates now
I'm going to speak for the treasures she
may throw something at me
she is collecting at the maximum rate
she is working the programs and it's
getting back out there these properties
are getting back on the tax rolls and
she is moving them fast as she can move
them and she's looking for other methods
and I'm going to speak forward to to be
able to move them through faster
am I right
thank you
okay one more thing to consider that I
would like to see is
um how can we update our GIS system is
it in Incorporated in some of this
budget work here
the gis system that we currently have
which is with interactive GIS which is
the same platform
that Washington County has in the rest
and this is any platform in the it boys
are here with me we've discussed this
GIS it's whatever y'all want to bring
that platform up to
right now you know we didn't need you
know and we but we do need now because
we're getting more things on you know
with projects and economic development
and land and accuracy on these is
through the assessor office be able to
get Craig benchmarks off of this to be
able to get it it will take two things
as I'll need the funding to be able to
increase it which is either you know
County pays for it or by fees which
we've done before but we may look at it
from like other counties they have some
have
for components for like Realtors
businesses and attorneys
and Professional Engineers one set
and then you have the basic for the uh
you know regular citizen that wants to
go in and look at their property and say
hey this is what I've got and this is
what my neighbor has and all this but
when it steps up to the level of data
and the requirements and the accuracy
for the professionals then you may look
at a phase so I can we can we can
approach that take a look at it
and we're getting ready to do the flown
some photography with the new assessment
I think the software is is probably
pretty good but the management of it or
it needs to be I don't know what it
needs to have because I've had several
calls
and several complaints uh that the
property is not where it says it is and
it is you know it's totally incorrect
it's totally Incorrect and so we I don't
know what this is going to cost to fix
this but and and it may be a simple fix
I have no idea I just I just want to
make sure that it gets fixed
well because the professionals can't use
it and the regular citizens can't use it
yeah
yeah I know it I want to see and you
know on the shape house that we get you
know we've got two systems that we run
now the Assessors Office runs pictometry
which is a higher level which has the
flown over which has a photography with
it Contours then you have access to that
but that we only have one license you
know for the victometry and that's for
the assessor's office to be able to
assist an assessment of the properties
and then we have the regular GIS that we
have through interactive GIS
now I can work with I can mention we'll
discuss with Commissioner Revenue and
the assessor's office to be able to and
maybe look at with the IT department to
see what we can maybe load up the plants
into and this is one of the discussions
to get a better definition to it if that
makes sense rather than the program we
might be able to link the plots in with
the property so is air 911 services are
they linked into this so they know where
the fire hydrants are the and they know
all this
so they have their own system we have
our own system as number one we don't
allow the general public onto ours I
understand but what I'm saying is air
dinosaur of a system over here on one
side is not affecting the other side
right no just one of those fire hydrants
in the county that y'all paid through
under which is supposedly in this right
now operational those are benchmarked in
Arc which is the 911 emergency services
system and we actually have access to 13
counties and when we bring up our our
Emergency Management
place in a surveying or land record s
it's been years and years has been best
trying to take the plan
many times
well as Katie would tell you I think I I
walked I don't know how many times I had
worked well Feeney on the trash out over
there so it was a that was an experience
in itself on them trying to find an oak
tree a poplar tree and a walnut tree
yeah and it's either the minds or the
nature conservancy and you won't see the
names in there you will see okay who
owns this freeze property yes I agree
and and I'll talk to Randy and we'll see
if we can
work any other questions
exact recession to include
this adeptical name that Wesley Lawson
don't seem like we're getting more with
him and I like us to address that and
see if we can get that moving forward
for adapted coordinator okay and we we
approved too and we can't even seem to
get one that's why we do prove too and
it's hard it's hard to get somebody it's
hard it's hard and I've talked to Jason
he he can use one if if we could ever
get you know get mature line down the
line to accomplish that
it's hard it's hard to get in many
positions it is definitely hard but one
of the things and the best program that
y'all have built and implemented is that
Community work program
here is your savings
by 1.3 to 1.5 billion years
there's another cut I didn't even saying
mention it
yo I'm talking just cut straight labor
cost
easy they they're doing painting I've
gone all over the county you'll see
if any yeah
I got Bob Gibson he's he's he's right on
it and he's actually down in Castlewood
they're redoing the uh the tennis courts
down there they're redoing the fence
that's all Community work right working
with the school board
and it's it's just remember the lights
at Homemaker Little League field yeah
that's my my staff is on that that will
take my staff to the engineers but Tim
will tell you I mean they came and done
all the work
so any final thoughts other than need
money
[Music]
Monday uh so Monday the um uh third of
April will start at four o'clock yeah
it is but how you to answer one more
question for you how did you get you're
going to say how did you get to seven
percent
what you got to remember is the Keynotes
that I pointed out to you before from
the state
all Constitution officers are being
covered by the state the school board
raise is covered by the state you're
taking care of the 41 people that's it
that's the raises and you're able to
give to the fire and Rescue
the cohorts
in the race program
creative movement and it is I mean it's
as real as real can get that's a dollar
for dollar movement
that's all I have if you have no more
questions
thank you so
chain of motion we adjourn I'll make it
away
oh I did say yes come in and we need to
reconvene since or since we're gonna go
into the next budget session
that's right sorry about that we're just
going to let it ride till April I will
entertain uh anybody that needs to do
some special comments any public
comments anybody
you're going to save it
okay
I appreciate everyone coming and and
sitting through these numbers thank you
Alicia we appreciate you and this board
for coming out here again tonight
um oh anyway I'll entertain the motion
we adjourn I got one I need a second got
two or three all in favor
any opposed motion carries we'll see you
on April the
sixth
fourth third third four o'clock
what